01 · Where it sits

Where it sits

Scalewhere W and L sits
W
← LW →

Everything goes on one scale with two marks. That's the appeal: nothing is in between.

02 · Don't confuse it

Tell it apart

W vs L
AspectWL
Stands forWinLoss
Common phrase"Big W", "take the dub""Take the L", "massive L"
Combined with"W rizz""L + ratio"

W marks anything good, L anything bad. "Take the L" is gracious: you admit you lost. Calling something "an L" for someone else can be a jab.

03 · The long read

What it really means

W and L reduce life to a results table. Something good happens: "huge W". Something bad: "massive L". If you were wrong about the restaurant, you "take the L". Two letters cover almost any situation.

The letters come from sports, where results tables mark each game W or L. Know Your Meme says it's unclear when they became slang. An early example is from hip-hop: The Ringer pointed to Big Pun and Fat Joe's 1998 song "Twinz", with the line "the day I take an L", and "take the L" was defined on Urban Dictionary on 25 August 2003, for things like failing a test or losing money.

Use grew in the mid-2010s, particularly in sports and rap communities online. A popular video game added an emote called "Take That L" in 2018. The positive side caught up: by 2019, Know Your Meme notes, people were using "W" to celebrate anything good. You can also "take the dub", since W is "double-u".

Part of the appeal is how easily the letters combine: W rizz and L rizz, an L + ratio. And "take the L" has a gracious side that's easy to miss. Saying it about yourself is a quick, good-humoured way to admit you were wrong, which is more than many longer phrases manage.

04 · Provenance

Where it comes from

W

win

L

loss

Sports tables mark each result with W or L. Know Your Meme says it's unclear when the letters became slang; once they did, they spread to everything else.

  1. 1998

    Big Pun and Fat Joe's "Twinz" uses "take an L", an early example The Ringer pointed to (Know Your Meme).

  2. 25 August 2003

    "Take the L" is defined on Urban Dictionary (Know Your Meme).

  3. 2015–16

    "Take the L" sees much more use, particularly in sports and rap communities online (Know Your Meme).

  4. 2019

    By now "W" is being used for anything positive, following L (Know Your Meme).

05 · In the wild

In real life

  • Text: "got the job!!" Reply: "huge W"
  • Text: "missed the last train home. massive L"
  • Text: "you were right about the restaurant, I'll take the L"
06 · Asked often

Questions

Q01What does W mean in a text?

A win. "Big W" or "huge W" means something went really well. "Take the dub" (W, said as "double-u") means the same.

Q02What does L mean in slang?

A loss. "That's an L" means it went badly; "take the L" means accept you lost or were wrong.

Q03Where do W and L come from?

From sports, where results are shown as W (win) or L (loss). Know Your Meme traces "take an L" to a 1998 hip-hop track and "take the L" to Urban Dictionary in 2003; it went mainstream on Twitter around 2015–16, and W followed as general praise by 2019.

Q04Is "take the L" rude?

It depends who says it. Said about yourself, it's a gracious admission. Said to someone else, it can be a taunt.

07 · Evidence

Sources

  1. L and W (Slang) — Know Your Meme.
  2. take the L — Wiktionary.
  3. That's What They Say: everybody "takes the L" sometimes — Michigan Public.
08 · Nearby

Words around it